Round 2: Standard – Bad Dog Agility Academy

Round 2: Standard

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  • beardie1234 says:

    My first thought about handling 3-4-5 was to send to 3-4, layering 5 and picking my dog up on the right on the TO side of 5 and sending over. I wouldn’t have to worry about the cross being late and it would give me a head start to get down the line for 6-7-8. Will compare this to the options you have mentioned when I get the chance to put the course up.

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      When I set up this section of the course to train at home, that option definitely come to mind and worked fine. When I watch my run back, the deceleration and lateral motion I would need to have on the DW in order to hand back on the takeoff side of #5 would get me a pretty slow DW performance. Training issues…I know 😉 I also would worry that I would get serpentine type convergence after jump #3 when they saw the #5 jump between me and them. Basically, it looks a bit more spread out when I watch my NAC run than what I set up at home making it harder for me. You have much stronger distance skills and it certainly would be an option to consider/try.

  • dadiehl says:

    so this is something i think worthy of a bda podcast.. the handling of the 270…
    I saw you do the front cross on the other side of 4 and that worked.. but i’ve soon TOO MANY weekend warriors try to execute and it just put the dog in EXTENSION

    • dadiehl says:

      and the best result was a WIDE turn…. Even my fundamentals instructor mentioned this was the preferred way and that I was “old fashioned” in executing a shoulder turn. (personally i have an AROUND command and practice around the sofa and love seat every night to give the dog muscle memory…. 100% reliable so far.)
      My point is, f/c on 4 puts MOST dogs in extension and creates a wide turn….. your thoughts?

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      I agree that the front cross after #4 resulted in some wide turns and off courses, but I feel it was the execution/training of the skill, not the strategy. There were 2 factors with that FC; first, MANY MANY handlers lacked the DW independence to make that FC happen in a timely manner. If you could not leave your dog laterally on the DW or outrun them, you were going to be late. A late front cross was going to cause all sorts off problems. I set this section of the course up at a my arena and even in training students lacked the independence to get downstream. If you don’t trust your DW contact in training, you certainly aren’t going to trust it at a NAC. Secondly, it is more of a forward motion front cross and anything else. a FMFC is a specific type of FC that a built more on a foundation of trained cues vs natural cues. For many FCs we use deceleration or lateral motion to cue the turn. In this case, you couldn’t do either of those things and had to have forward motion. The turn was then cued primarily with a shoulder rotation, outside arm, eye contact, and possible verbal. My foundation for this skills comes from teaching a collection recall. I find many teams lack the understanding and knowledge of aa FMFC and therefor, the dog doesn’t have that skill very strong, if at all. In that case, all the forward motion to get the FC done will push the dog wide or to the off course.

      It was certainly a tricky section of the course! I wonder if even the judge knew how hard it was a going to be.

      • Maureen says:

        Thanks for the explanation. I had circled that on the map this morning as the trickiest spot on course.
        When we can I will practice this as many ways as possible.

  • KMAC says:

    Will a wall jump be used at the nationals? We have a local club that uses a wall jump, but many of the competitors do not have one neither does their club.

    • Sarah Fernandezlopez says:

      It may appear in the warm up rounds (Premier/ISC) but not in the actual 5 rounds of Nationals. Per the AKC Rules and Regulations:
      “*Only one wall jump may be used as a spread jump or in place of a Panel Jump in Standard Premier. The Wall Jump may only be used in Premier”

      However, also note that per the premium: “Obstacles and jumps shall be used pursuant to the latest edition of the AKC Regulations for Agility Trials, however, obstacles required by class level may be altered for the event.”

      Typically this is used to remove the table from Standard. However, it does mean that it wouldn’t be against the rules to add the wall.

      I would be shocked to see it in the opening rounds, and it would cause a huge stir (something AKC doesn’t typically do willingly).

  • says:

    Will there be a table?

    • Sarah Fernandezlopez says:

      No. There is never a table at NAC. However, I can not find anything that PROHIBITS it. Just this sentence in the premium: “Obstacles required by class level may be altered for this event”.

      It’s difficult to get through so many dogs in one day, and adding the table would add significant time.

      However, it’s worth noting that ONE year on ONE course, a judge used the table at the FCI Agility World Championship and everyone lost their mind. lol. Could an AKC judge do that at NAC?

      I do think it’s almost a certainty that’s it’s not there due to the time constraints for the event.

      • says:

        Thank you! My dog hates the table so hopefully there won’t be one! This is my first time at NAC, so this information is so helpful to me! THANK YOU!!!

      • beardie1234 says:

        I agree that time saving was likely the major reason the table was removed…I’ve been around long enough to remember when the judge didn’t start counting until the dog had assumed the position of the day which ate up even more time! However, I would also guess that the relative inaccuracy of the judge counting the table is also a factor…why time a run to 0.01 seconds when at best the manual table count probably has a deviation from dog to dog of 0.5 or so seconds.

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