Collection Recall – Bad Dog Agility Academy

Collection Recall

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  • Kathy Smith says:

    Would you check out Rowan for me on this? Comment on my mechanics as well as on him–I found that my mechanics were encouraging him to dive when I was luring with my right hand in a previous video.

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    • Kathy Smith says:

      Forgot to mention that the second bar was because he ducked underneath. He wanted to work, though, so I just added a second bar. He finds this difficult, and it’s been a project to get him not to dive.

      • Kathy Smith says:

        I’m going to go ahead and add 2-jump collection recall work here so you can compare and get an idea of what I’m working with:

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        • Jennifer Crank says:

          This does not look uncommon for a dog with his power and size. It is certainly a good thing that we are starting to work on this now as I feel that this may be something that stays on your training list for a while.

          My biggest comment is with regard to the use of the “hand” verbal. When you first reached over the bar and said “hand”, I was expecting him to come onto the takeoff side and stop and take a treat at which point you would then invite him over the jump. I’m not sure how I feel about the fact that “hand“ is now becoming his collection verbal. I think if I was going to have my hand extended like that and give that cue, I would want him to come up on the takeoff side and stop and take the cookie. I think you risk losing that as a marker if you allow him to blast past your hand to jump.

          I think right now I would be doing this with a significant visual barrier behind you. A fence line 30” away. A straight tunnel. Something that will put enough pressure on his to give to a decent number of successful reps and then slowly move away. In addition, keep repeating reps where he is close as well. Do one 10’ back. Then one 2’ back. Then 12’ back. Then 2’ back. Alternate the easy with the hard so the success rate stays high.

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      Just a few adjustments to make for this. But, like Pauline’s video, a great demo video for other students to watch as well!

      https://youtu.be/HHfA8yaZF3M

  • phosenfeld@wowway.com says:

    have been working on this with Copper Sun, who wants to fling himself over the jump instead of collecting. Went back and did the foundation drills indoors, then came outside. Two views – from behind and from the side:

    https://youtu.be/7073LNsLeuk

    https://youtu.be/UQfJF-SQoQA

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      Great video! Some excellent examples of things I liked and things I would adjust for others to watch in this feedback as well.

      https://youtu.be/Va8boqXJ3ZA

      • phosenfeld@wowway.com says:

        thank you. your explanation was so helpful and so clear. loved the gymnast comparison. I think, in hindsight, that the toy wasn’t a good choice for a reward – he got so excited about the toy (especially in the side view) that he wasn’t thinking about how he was jumping. I may try this again using food rewards and see if it helps him think clearly. Anything else you think I should change in how I do this?

        • Jennifer Crank says:

          Yes, with live teaching I never allow people to use toys for recall training. Or really any kind of jump training. I apologize for not including that in my notes.

  • Sbaumbarger@bex.net says:

    I included a short bit of this with Eddie. He could not deal with the pressure when learning how to jump.
    This was Myles’ first time doing this recall.

    https://youtu.be/UVEIn0ygbxs

    Is there anything else I should work on with Myles before next Friday?

  • mach1ab@windstream.net says:

    I have been working on this with Buddy, along with the other recalls in Linda’s book. I will continue to do so. With Buddy being my second agility dog, I think I better understand how important all of these fundamentals are. There are certainly qualities that it remains to be seen if Buddy will be as good as Kodiac was, but I am very happy with Buddy ‘s jumping form and recalls. It is certainly a big help being able to watch how you work with your dogs.

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      I’m glad that you value the foundations! Yes, its sometimes takes a 2nd dog to appreciate what we harp on you for in class but now it makes things so much easier with Buddy! 😉

      I am a visual learner so for me demo videos are very important. I used Vento for this demo (who was in your class) so a perfect level challenge for Buddy.


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