Box Method – Adding the Box to the Aframe – Bad Dog Agility Academy

Box Method – Adding the Box to the Aframe

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  • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

    Once I get back to practicing( next week🤞) I would like to improve our understanding of the running AF. I have the box, and we have been working on the flat.
    I like the idea of back chaining, but I have two questions: 1)my BC will think I have completely lost my marbles if I try to PLACE him anywhere on the AF, 2)if I lower the AF, and then give the verbal while dog is placed sitting at the base of the upside? Would that sorta work? I will try to video when I have the opportunity.
    Thanks!

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      I think being able to lower the aframe is more import than being able to place the dog on the frame and back chain. I can see where your dog would not like that as I’m sure many dogs 1) would be confused or 2) don’t like being touched. So yes, try starting at the base of the approach with the frame as low as you can.

      Also, make sure you have done plenty of drills with the box on the flat with speed into and out of it. This will mimic more of the momentum they will have on the aframe.

      And most importantly, video tape so you can watch what is happening and I can help if needed.

      • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

        Yay! I am cleared to get back in the ring! 🎉
        Here was our first return back to AF. We have had about a 12 week break.

        https://youtu.be/Ey1iccNfrTw

        • Jennifer Crank says:

          Not bad for the first tieback in awhile. A few things to clarify:
          1) what was your 2o2o verbal? “Hit it” doesn’t seem to be working to cue the run, but the “go” does.
          2) did you do any work with the box on the flat before putting it on the aframe? If so, do you have video?
          3) Do you have the ability to raise the afame box height wise? So rather than it laying flat no the aframe, have it 2-3″ inches off the frame. Similar to the box position at the very beginning of this video.

          • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

            My verbal for 2o2o is only for the DW. It is “Spot”.
            The verbal for the running AF is “Hit it!”
            We have been working the DW-2o2o and the SS also 2o2o. So, I under stand that the poor guy is confused. I have not had access to the AF for a long time!

            I will look to see if I still have film from out work with the box on the flat.

            I do t know if I can make he box higher? Will try next time I’m there.

            How about the location of the box? Is it too high?

            Thanks for your help!

          • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

            Next session

            https://youtu.be/fkc2dwvJdiM

            The box starts off a bit more elevated, but gradually sinks to the surface of the AF

          • Jennifer Crank says:

            Stunning! Love it! These are exactly what I want to see. Based on this video, I would keep the box where it is at and begin to add some obstacles before and then after the aframe and then some handling. I’m glad the confusion of the 2o2o was short lived 😉

          • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

            https://youtu.be/pKuEs5cTDzs

            DW in a sequence.

          • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

            OPPS! I meant AF!

          • Jennifer Crank says:

            These are looking pretty good! He is starting to get so much air over the apex that I can see him getting closer and closer to one hits on the downside which is what he did on that failure. This is pretty common for large strided, powerful dogs like him. To confirm, aframe is at full height? I would go ahead and take away the bottom and two sides of the box so that you are just left with the top. And go ahead an add handling at the exit – FC, BC, pushes, turns, etc. Maintain consistency in your criteria that all four feet bust hit below the top of the box for reinforcement.

          • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

            The AF is not yet at full height. I missed that step some where along the way. I’m get it up to full height at our next session.

            If I remove the bottom and sides of the box, where do I place the remaining side? Keep at same location, just about 6” above the yellow?

          • Jennifer Crank says:

            Yes, get it to full height as I think that will help not get so much air over the top. And yes, leave the top of the box exactly where it is.

          • montanak9pt@gmail.com says:

            https://youtu.be/t0FahpPIj48

            AF at 5’6”. We progressed to just the one bar.

          • Jennifer Crank says:

            Looking fantastic!

            https://youtu.be/nj2zV7wJkQo

  • Holly D says:

    Curious about your placement of box. Why not all in yellow?

    • Jennifer Crank says:

      I would really like the dog to hit in the center of the box so I often work backwards in determining its position on the aframe. I decide where in the contact zone I anticipate a dog of his size and stride to hit and then I center the box around that point. I expect him to hit between the 2nd and 3rd slate from the base. If I put the box around the yellow, I would be aiming for a hit between the 1st and 2nd slate and I don’t think that is realistic nor desirable for this dog. The box position may be adjusted for each individual dog or change throughout a dogs training.


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